Sunday, February 8, 2009
From the minutes of the special meeting/January 27th
Mallard Park is constantly saturated.
Ball field is saturated
Sidewalk floods by park.
Street by park floods.
Many were told they should not have a basement but the Village allowed anyway ... perhaps by a variance.
Problem appears to be a groundwater issue
Any correlation with the use of deep wells
Who owns the pond
Is not the pond owner responsible for maintenance
Was told SSA was needed
Was told HOA had to be formed
Who approved water to run to private property
Where are the Rolling Oaks residents, they use pond too
What is a cost for the fix
What is a timeline for the fix
Village already tried to force an SSA/HOA resident do not want
What about the tile that was to be re-routed
Explain why a problem in Strafford Woods was fixed
Snow is going to melt and created flooding can a temporary fix be done
Land has natural drainage what affect would a fix in Mallard have on the Sauers
Has Mr. Sauer done something to stop the flow
How does the Rob Roy Drainage system fit into the equation
Does the Village tape storm sewers for problems
Residents have an area to visit mallardpoint.blogspot.com
Why not bid the project and the study
How can the pond be maintained if there is no access
In response to the asked questions or comments above, the following was offered by the Board and staff.
It was explained that the residents cannot be forced to start an HOA. The pond is for the benefit of all regardless of actual ownership. If an SSA had to be enacted Rolling Oaks residents would be a part of and notified. The pond was not approved as private it was developer owned in a trust. Neither cost nor timeline can be given at this time. If a fix is needed it needs to be long term, not short tem. Yes a tile was re-routed, may need to be extended. The pipe in Strafford was a broken storm sewer pipe that was a village pipe. If there is a solution prior to the snow melt it will be performed. The “rule” of release rates and not sending anymore water to another property was explained and the reason behind adding retention/detention to a subdivision. Yes the Village does perform storm sewer maintenance. There is access to the pond and all who benefit from it can use the access to maintain.
Mr. Sauer stated that in 92-93 his family started losing crop land. The Ogles are also adversely as well. He would like this problem resolved as much as anyone. He and his family have put in new drain tiles to try to alleviate but it has not been successful..
President Michels stated that if something is done now it will be a temporary fix, however a long term maintenance plan does needs to be drafted. Along with maintenance scope it will need to be determined who will be responsible for performance of maintenance and the ongoing cost. Retention / Detention ponds throughout the Village are all part of HOA and maintained by the HOA, if all areas if a HOA was to not maintain the retention/detention then an SSA would be enacted. The Village has 9,000 residents to which it has a fiduciary responsibility. Use of funds must be evaluated and properly considered in every issue that is brought forward. The drainage issue is really a private property matter and if the Village can assist it will perform an initial fix but ongoing maintenance and the associated costs cannot be undertaken by the Village.
Attorney Andersson explained at the request of the Board the bidding process for professional services. The Village is allowed to use a firm that it has a pre-existing relationship with however it if choose to not use any firm that it knows then the process is to ask for qualifications thru the published RFQ requirements and to form a committee to interview and then after a firm is chosen to give them the scope of work.
Mark Bushnell of Trotter Associates will contact residents if he needs additional information. The Village will work with Mr. Bushnell to come up with a scope of work. It is hopeful that the scope and the contract can be approved within the next few weeks. The Village would like to have any work that can be done performed done before the spring thaw. The Board stated residents will be notified of any upcoming meetings or happenings. President Michels asked those present to be sure to sign in and provide their email addresses. President Michels thanked all for coming.
To read all minutes, see this link: http://www.sugar-grove.il.us/Minutes/
The minutes from the board meeting on 2/3/9 are not up yet.
Ball field is saturated
Sidewalk floods by park.
Street by park floods.
Many were told they should not have a basement but the Village allowed anyway ... perhaps by a variance.
Problem appears to be a groundwater issue
Any correlation with the use of deep wells
Who owns the pond
Is not the pond owner responsible for maintenance
Was told SSA was needed
Was told HOA had to be formed
Who approved water to run to private property
Where are the Rolling Oaks residents, they use pond too
What is a cost for the fix
What is a timeline for the fix
Village already tried to force an SSA/HOA resident do not want
What about the tile that was to be re-routed
Explain why a problem in Strafford Woods was fixed
Snow is going to melt and created flooding can a temporary fix be done
Land has natural drainage what affect would a fix in Mallard have on the Sauers
Has Mr. Sauer done something to stop the flow
How does the Rob Roy Drainage system fit into the equation
Does the Village tape storm sewers for problems
Residents have an area to visit mallardpoint.blogspot.com
Why not bid the project and the study
How can the pond be maintained if there is no access
In response to the asked questions or comments above, the following was offered by the Board and staff.
It was explained that the residents cannot be forced to start an HOA. The pond is for the benefit of all regardless of actual ownership. If an SSA had to be enacted Rolling Oaks residents would be a part of and notified. The pond was not approved as private it was developer owned in a trust. Neither cost nor timeline can be given at this time. If a fix is needed it needs to be long term, not short tem. Yes a tile was re-routed, may need to be extended. The pipe in Strafford was a broken storm sewer pipe that was a village pipe. If there is a solution prior to the snow melt it will be performed. The “rule” of release rates and not sending anymore water to another property was explained and the reason behind adding retention/detention to a subdivision. Yes the Village does perform storm sewer maintenance. There is access to the pond and all who benefit from it can use the access to maintain.
Mr. Sauer stated that in 92-93 his family started losing crop land. The Ogles are also adversely as well. He would like this problem resolved as much as anyone. He and his family have put in new drain tiles to try to alleviate but it has not been successful..
President Michels stated that if something is done now it will be a temporary fix, however a long term maintenance plan does needs to be drafted. Along with maintenance scope it will need to be determined who will be responsible for performance of maintenance and the ongoing cost. Retention / Detention ponds throughout the Village are all part of HOA and maintained by the HOA, if all areas if a HOA was to not maintain the retention/detention then an SSA would be enacted. The Village has 9,000 residents to which it has a fiduciary responsibility. Use of funds must be evaluated and properly considered in every issue that is brought forward. The drainage issue is really a private property matter and if the Village can assist it will perform an initial fix but ongoing maintenance and the associated costs cannot be undertaken by the Village.
Attorney Andersson explained at the request of the Board the bidding process for professional services. The Village is allowed to use a firm that it has a pre-existing relationship with however it if choose to not use any firm that it knows then the process is to ask for qualifications thru the published RFQ requirements and to form a committee to interview and then after a firm is chosen to give them the scope of work.
Mark Bushnell of Trotter Associates will contact residents if he needs additional information. The Village will work with Mr. Bushnell to come up with a scope of work. It is hopeful that the scope and the contract can be approved within the next few weeks. The Village would like to have any work that can be done performed done before the spring thaw. The Board stated residents will be notified of any upcoming meetings or happenings. President Michels asked those present to be sure to sign in and provide their email addresses. President Michels thanked all for coming.
To read all minutes, see this link: http://www.sugar-grove.il.us/Minutes/
The minutes from the board meeting on 2/3/9 are not up yet.
# posted by Julie @ 12:26 PM 
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"The Village has 9,000 residents to which it has a fiduciary responsibility. Use of funds must be evaluated and properly considered in every issue that is brought forward. The drainage issue is really a private property matter and if the Village can assist it will perform an initial fix but ongoing maintenance and the associated costs cannot be undertaken by the Village".
So the village does have fiduciary reponsibility to the residence of Mallard Point afterall. So they should be able to evaluate that their past errors have brought us to where we are now and agree to run the proper drainage tile from and to wherever it is that it needs to go. I am glad to hear that this is a private property issue. Now if the owner of the pond would just clean it out and agree to do an annual burn around it, we can all move on. It is nice that the Village will help the Sauers initially, and then the rest should be just simple maintenance by the owner. I am relieved to see the village has a plan after all.
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So the village does have fiduciary reponsibility to the residence of Mallard Point afterall. So they should be able to evaluate that their past errors have brought us to where we are now and agree to run the proper drainage tile from and to wherever it is that it needs to go. I am glad to hear that this is a private property issue. Now if the owner of the pond would just clean it out and agree to do an annual burn around it, we can all move on. It is nice that the Village will help the Sauers initially, and then the rest should be just simple maintenance by the owner. I am relieved to see the village has a plan after all.
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